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<title>Dem kann entsprochen werden... :-) (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://edoc.hu-berlin.de/miscellanies/klimawandel-28044/17/PDF/17.pdf">Natürliche Klimaänderungen</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jabberwock</dc:creator>
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<title>Wär schön wenn die Grund-Info auf deutsch drin wär (oT) (Antwort)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Der Husky</dc:creator>
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<title>Sonne heute frei von Flecken wie ein Babypopo (Antwort)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>demnächst  &quot;Zwangsfahren mit dem Auto?&quot; (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kann ja böse enden, wenn die Erde jetzt kälter wird.</p>
<p>Ahne schon die neuen Vorschriften: </p>
<p>-Zwangsheizen mit verdrecktem Ofen<br />
-1 Stunde Zwangsautofahren am Tag (zwischen 23 Uhr und 6 Uhr Bonus nur 45 Minuten)<br />
-Jeder, der einen Garten hat muß eine CO 2 aktive Kuh drauf stellen; Batterie-Kuh-Attrappen werden per Satellit erkannt und per SDI zerstört (Pech, wenn grade ein Kaffeeklatsch auf der Terasse mit Oma stattfindet)</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
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<title>@Todd (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo, @Todd,<br />
als Klima-Skeptiker ist mir die Position von Malberg natürlich bekannt.<br />
Aber so einfach wie Malberg es darstellt ist es nicht. Das Klima ist keine monokausale Veranstaltung. Es wäre ja schön, wenn wir endlich die Ursache-Wirkungszusammenhänge der Temperatur- und Klimaänderungen transparent machen können. Dabei wird â€“ wenn der Tag kommt - die Sonneneinstrahlung sicher auch eine - vielleicht sogar große - Rolle spielen. Aber es hat keinen Sinn den CO2-Faktor nun einfach durch den Sonnenflecken-Faktor zu ersetzen. Alle diese monokausalen Erklärungen sind taube Versuche einen unerhört komplexen Zusammenhang totzuschlagen â€“ so jedenfalls mho.<br />
Grüße</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jabberwock</dc:creator>
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<title>dann mal hier lang... (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Der Sonnenzyklus und die Sonnenflecken-Aktivität ist mindestens seit der<br />
Zeitenwende bekannt und wird</p>
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<p><a href=" http://www.schmanck.de/Malberg.htm"></a></p>
<p><a href=" http://www.schmanck.de/Malberg.htm">Gruß</a></p>
<p><a href=" http://www.schmanck.de/Malberg.htm">Todd</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Etwas Skepsis scheint mir hier angebracht (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ich â€œouteâ€ mich auch einmal als â€œKlima-Skeptikerâ€, aber ich wäre etwas vorsichtig mit dieser Quelle.</p>
<p>Der Sonnenzyklus und die Sonnenflecken-Aktivität ist mindestens seit der Zeitenwende bekannt und wird <a href="http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6600/sunspotaktivitiessince1yj5.jpg">seit dem 17-18 Jh</a> mehr oder weniger genau <a href="http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8221/sunspotobservationinthech0.jpg">untersucht</a>. (Quelle der Bilder: J. A. Eddy â€“ The Maunder Minimum, Science, June 1976)</p>
<p>Das Max Planck Institut hat vor einigen Jahren die Sonnenaktivität für die letzten 11.400 Jahre untersucht: <a href="http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20041028/">The Sun is More Active Now than Over the Last 8000 Years</a></p>
<p>Eindeutige und für jeden der beiden Sonnenzyklen (einer dauert ca. 11 Jahre der andere ca. 90 Jahre) zutreffende Ergebnisse liegen bisher nicht vor. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20040802/">How Strongly Does the Sun Influence the Global Climate?</a></p>
<p>Last not least â€“ die reißerische Sprache der Presseveröffentlichung, ohne jede wissenschaftliche Dokumentation - außer der NASA-Veröffentlichung, die kein Wort über Klima-Effekte sagt - lässt mich zur Vorsicht raten.</p>
<p>Gruß</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jabberwock</dc:creator>
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<title>Gut zu wissen, was in Zukunft passieren wird (Antwort)</title>
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<p>Die können noch nicht mal das Wetter vernünftig auf drei Tage im voraus bestimmen, aber das Klima für die nächsten 30 Jahre, das geht. </p>
<p>Wenn Wettersoftware und Klimasoftware identische Strickmuster haben, gibts was zu Lachen, na ja in 30 Jahren.<img src="images/smilies/lach.gif" alt="[[lach]]" />   </p>
<p>Gruss<br />
Eddie</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>eddie09</dc:creator>
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<title>Politiker ignorieren das natürlich! Wo bleibt der Aufschrei in den Medien? (oT) (Antwort)</title>
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<dc:creator>Elli</dc:creator>
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<title>schon mal ander Ostsse endecken und unter Palmen (Antwort)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>schwofen<br />
<a href="http://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/0,1518,539693,00.html">http://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/0,1518,539693,00.html</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Global Cooling ,,,</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Schau an, schau an .... vielleicht regen die beiden folgenden Artikel zum Nachdenken an -)</p>
<p> Press Release<br />
SSRC 1-2008</p>
<p>Changes in the Sunâ€™s Surface to Bring Next Climate Change</p>
<p>January 2, 2008</p>
<p>Today, the Space and Science Research Center (SSRC), in Orlando, Florida announces that it has confirmed the recent web announcement of NASA solar physicists that there are substantial changes occurring in the sunâ€™s surface. The SSRC has further researched these changes and has concluded they will bring about the next climate change to one of a long lasting cold era.</p>
<p>Today, Director of the SSRC, John Casey has reaffirmed earlier research he led that independently discovered the sunâ€™s changes are the result of a family of cycles that bring about climate shifts from cold climate to warm and back again.</p>
<p>â€œWe today confirm the recent announcement by NASA that there are historic and important changes taking place on the sunâ€™s surface. They will have only one outcome â€“ a new climate change is coming that will bring an extended period of deep cold to the planet. This is not however a unique event for the planet although it is critically important news to this and the next generations. It is but the normal sequence of alternating climate changes that has been going on for thousands of years. Further, according to our research, this series of solar cycles are so predictable that they can be used to roughly forecast the next series of climate changes many decades in advance. I have verified the accuracy of these cyclesâ€™ behavior over the last 1,000 years relative to temperatures on Earth, to well over 90%.</p>
<p>As to what these changes are Casey says, â€œThe sunâ€™s surface flows have slowed dramatically as NASA has indicated. This process of surface movement, what NASA calls the â€œconveyor beltâ€ essentially sweeps up old sunspots and deposits new ones. NASA studies have found that when the surface movement slows down, sunspot counts drop significantly. All records of sunspot counts and other proxies of solar activity going back 6,000 years clearly validate our own findings that when we have sunspot counts lower than 50 it means only one thing â€“ an intense cold climate, globally. NASA says the solar cycle 25, the one after the next that starts this spring will be at 50 or lower. The general opinion of the SSRC scientists is that it could begin even sooner within 3 years with the next solar cycle 24. What we are saying today is that my own research and that of other scientists at the SSRC verifies that NASA is right about one thing â€“ a solar cycle of 50 or lower is headed our way. With this next solar minimum predicted by NASA, what I call a â€œsolar hibernation,â€ the SSRC forecasts a much colder Earth just as it has transpired before for thousands of years. If NASA is the more accurate on the schedule, then we may see even warmer temperatures before the bottom falls out. If the SSRC and other scientists around the world are correct then we have only a few years to prepare for before 20-30 years of lasting and possibly dangerous cold arrives.â€</p>
<p>When asked about what this will mean to the average person on the street, Casey was firm,â€ The last time this particular cycle regenerated was over 200 years ago. I call it the â€œBi-Centennial Cycle.â€ It took place between 1793 and 1830, a period of extreme cold that resulted in what historian John D. Post called the â€˜last great subsistence crisis.â€™ With that cold came massive crop losses, food riots, famine and disease. I believe this next climate change will be much stronger and has the potential to once more cause widespread crop losses globally with the resultant ill effects. The key difference for this next Bi-Centennial Cycleâ€™s impact versus the last is that we will have over 8 billion mouths to feed in the next coldest years where as we had only 1 billion the last time. Among other effects like social and economic disruption, we are facing the real prospect of the â€˜perfect storm of global food shortagesâ€™ in the next climate change. In answer to the question, everyone on the street will be affected.â€</p>
<p>Given the importance of the next climate change Casey was asked whether the government has been notified. â€œYes, as soon as my research revealed these solar cycles and the prediction of the coming cold era with the next climate change, I notified all the key offices in the Bush administration including both parties in the Senate and House science committees as well as most of the nationâ€™s media outlets. Unfortunately, because of the intensity of coverage of the UN IPCC and man made global warming during 2007, the full story about climate change is very slow in getting told. That is now changing. These changes in the sun have begun. They are unstoppable. With the word finally starting to get out about the next climate change, hopefully we will have time to prepare. Right now, the newly organized SSRC is the leading independent research center in the US and possibly worldwide, that is focused on the next climate change. Some of the worldâ€™s brightest scientists, also experts in solar physics and the next climate change have joined with me. In the meantime we will do our best to spread the word along with NASA and others who can see what is about to take place for the Earthâ€™s climate. Soon, I believe this will be recognized as the most important climate story of this century.â€</p>
<p>More information on the Space and Science Research center is available at:<br />
<a href="http://www.spaceandscience.net">www.spaceandscience.net</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.spaceandscience.net/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/PressReleaseSSRC1-2008.doc">zum Dokument</a></p>
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Mehr Info ...</p>
<p>&quot;All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.&quot;</p>
<p>&quot;A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C -- a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year's time. For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.&quot;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm">Zum Link zu DailyTech</a></p>
<p>lg<br />
Wolfgang</p>
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